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	<title>Comments on: Sea otters not to blame for shellfish decline</title>
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	<description>Homer, Alaska</description>
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		<title>By: BillyH</title>
		<link>http://homertribune.com/2013/03/sea-otters-not-to-blame-for-shellfish-decline/comment-page-1/#comment-114910</link>
		<dc:creator>BillyH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind of funny that  an &quot;environmental investment&quot; company would have any credibility to anyone except for Greenpeace and the Sierra Club.  So Mr. Investor, tell me why they King and Dungenous crab never returned after being overfished in the 70&#039;s.  It definitely couldn&#039;t have been the increase in marine mammals and predatory fish such as halibut and cod.  You greenies are just wanting to blame that nasty coal.  You&#039;d blame gun violence on coal if you could.  And one last thing to steam on....Why are the oyster farms across the bay thriving?  Maybe they are super shellfish that can live in battery acid.  Get real folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of funny that  an &#8220;environmental investment&#8221; company would have any credibility to anyone except for Greenpeace and the Sierra Club.  So Mr. Investor, tell me why they King and Dungenous crab never returned after being overfished in the 70&#8242;s.  It definitely couldn&#8217;t have been the increase in marine mammals and predatory fish such as halibut and cod.  You greenies are just wanting to blame that nasty coal.  You&#8217;d blame gun violence on coal if you could.  And one last thing to steam on&#8230;.Why are the oyster farms across the bay thriving?  Maybe they are super shellfish that can live in battery acid.  Get real folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kinville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Kinville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having never met Mr. Brown I would love to give him the benefit of doubt regarding his motivations, but without a doubt he has presented declarative information that reduces chaotic and complex issue to the point of meaninglessness. Captain Gregg takes on the science of Ocean Acidification, swings mightily...and misses. 

He exposes his bias when he damns the world’s shellfish industries. Studies such as “Is Ocean Acidification an Open-Ocean Syndrome? Understanding Anthropomorphic Impacts on Seawater pH” (Duarte et al) address the complexities involved; (natural) “changes in watersheds...yield high-magnitude decadal changes of up to 0.5 units in coastal pH”. This natural variance in pH overlies the .1 unit of decrease in pH attributed to human C02 emissions, a decrease reached over the entirety of the industrial revolution.

The effect of decreased pH and the concurrent decrease in carbonate ions varies greatly between shell building species. Without long term studies of the shellfish in question it is baseless conjecture to attribute entire population declines to anthropogenic C02 emissions. 

I also find it counterintuitive that in an area such as SE Alaska, which is subject to the vigorous Japanese Current and huge tidal action, that local C02 absorption by kelp would have any significant impact on local pH levels. 

Perhaps a wise way forward would be to initiate a controlled study, starting with a count of shellfish in a controlled area, followed by the culling of the sea otters that enter the study site. At specified intervals the shellfish population could be reassessed. This would be a great time to assess kelp impact on C02 absorption and pH levels as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having never met Mr. Brown I would love to give him the benefit of doubt regarding his motivations, but without a doubt he has presented declarative information that reduces chaotic and complex issue to the point of meaninglessness. Captain Gregg takes on the science of Ocean Acidification, swings mightily&#8230;and misses. </p>
<p>He exposes his bias when he damns the world’s shellfish industries. Studies such as “Is Ocean Acidification an Open-Ocean Syndrome? Understanding Anthropomorphic Impacts on Seawater pH” (Duarte et al) address the complexities involved; (natural) “changes in watersheds&#8230;yield high-magnitude decadal changes of up to 0.5 units in coastal pH”. This natural variance in pH overlies the .1 unit of decrease in pH attributed to human C02 emissions, a decrease reached over the entirety of the industrial revolution.</p>
<p>The effect of decreased pH and the concurrent decrease in carbonate ions varies greatly between shell building species. Without long term studies of the shellfish in question it is baseless conjecture to attribute entire population declines to anthropogenic C02 emissions. </p>
<p>I also find it counterintuitive that in an area such as SE Alaska, which is subject to the vigorous Japanese Current and huge tidal action, that local C02 absorption by kelp would have any significant impact on local pH levels. </p>
<p>Perhaps a wise way forward would be to initiate a controlled study, starting with a count of shellfish in a controlled area, followed by the culling of the sea otters that enter the study site. At specified intervals the shellfish population could be reassessed. This would be a great time to assess kelp impact on C02 absorption and pH levels as well.</p>
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		<title>By: CarlosCastillo</title>
		<link>http://homertribune.com/2013/03/sea-otters-not-to-blame-for-shellfish-decline/comment-page-1/#comment-114136</link>
		<dc:creator>CarlosCastillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carbon pollution makes the oceans more acidic. That&#039;s bad for coral reefs, fish, and humans.  http://clmtr.lt/cb/qgK0P4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbon pollution makes the oceans more acidic. That&#8217;s bad for coral reefs, fish, and humans.  <a href="http://clmtr.lt/cb/qgK0P4" rel="nofollow">http://clmtr.lt/cb/qgK0P4</a></p>
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