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	<title>Comments on: Homer’s halibut charters face new regulations</title>
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		<title>By: franan</title>
		<link>http://homertribune.com/2010/01/homer%e2%80%99s-halibut-charters-face-new-regulations/comment-page-1/#comment-1298</link>
		<dc:creator>franan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and incidentally - this article quotes two people Bob Howard and Kent Haina who don&#039;t like the halibut regs because it isn&#039;t &#039;fair&#039;. These guys show up out of the blue and basically say &quot;Where&#039;s mine&quot;. Guys that have been in charters for a long time and lived around the commercial fishermen have very little use for that attitude. You can&#039;t blame the newspaper - they don&#039;t really have anyone around who understands diddly about anything in fishing - except maybe how to tie a bobber on their toe and go to sleep with a hook and worm in the water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and incidentally &#8211; this article quotes two people Bob Howard and Kent Haina who don&#8217;t like the halibut regs because it isn&#8217;t &#8216;fair&#8217;. These guys show up out of the blue and basically say &#8220;Where&#8217;s mine&#8221;. Guys that have been in charters for a long time and lived around the commercial fishermen have very little use for that attitude. You can&#8217;t blame the newspaper &#8211; they don&#8217;t really have anyone around who understands diddly about anything in fishing &#8211; except maybe how to tie a bobber on their toe and go to sleep with a hook and worm in the water.</p>
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		<title>By: franan</title>
		<link>http://homertribune.com/2010/01/homer%e2%80%99s-halibut-charters-face-new-regulations/comment-page-1/#comment-1297</link>
		<dc:creator>franan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you people are talking about halibut as though it is an Alaskan issue - when the stock is a matter of international treaty and national regulation. Commercial fishermen don&#039;t put what they catch into their freezers - they provide cost effective halibut to the public - far more cost effective than going out on a charter. As far as the draggers - the bulk of what they discard is very small juveniles - and they along with the foreign draggers who have fished here for decades have done so as the halibut resource has rebounded from very low catches in the 70&#039;s. This whole situation is a south-east problem where the lodges are decimating localized halibut populations. There is also not enough to go around and provide for stable employment and industry. This just isn&#039;t the wild west anymore folks - the entire world&#039;s coastal countries have been very progressive in making &#039;limited entry&#039; the manner in which they manage for the fisheries resources and stability of industry at the same time. The migration of either tourists or commercial fleets into an area without regard for their historical contribution to the local economy is not even held in high regrad along the coast of Africa. The quasi &#039;populist&#039; argument you folks make about halibut ignores how far the discussion has come and what the decision makers are grappling with at this point in time. The calls to shut down the trawling industry which provides about 40 times more protein for the world than halibut does - is a bit myopic - even the nazi greenies understand that when they get to the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you people are talking about halibut as though it is an Alaskan issue &#8211; when the stock is a matter of international treaty and national regulation. Commercial fishermen don&#8217;t put what they catch into their freezers &#8211; they provide cost effective halibut to the public &#8211; far more cost effective than going out on a charter. As far as the draggers &#8211; the bulk of what they discard is very small juveniles &#8211; and they along with the foreign draggers who have fished here for decades have done so as the halibut resource has rebounded from very low catches in the 70&#8242;s. This whole situation is a south-east problem where the lodges are decimating localized halibut populations. There is also not enough to go around and provide for stable employment and industry. This just isn&#8217;t the wild west anymore folks &#8211; the entire world&#8217;s coastal countries have been very progressive in making &#8216;limited entry&#8217; the manner in which they manage for the fisheries resources and stability of industry at the same time. The migration of either tourists or commercial fleets into an area without regard for their historical contribution to the local economy is not even held in high regrad along the coast of Africa. The quasi &#8216;populist&#8217; argument you folks make about halibut ignores how far the discussion has come and what the decision makers are grappling with at this point in time. The calls to shut down the trawling industry which provides about 40 times more protein for the world than halibut does &#8211; is a bit myopic &#8211; even the nazi greenies understand that when they get to the table.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Cannon</title>
		<link>http://homertribune.com/2010/01/homer%e2%80%99s-halibut-charters-face-new-regulations/comment-page-1/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gart, As I said, I hadn&#039;t really researched the impact of transferable licenses but I tend to agree with you from all I know so far.  The &quot;exclusive club&quot; license leans toward those who are &quot;commercial&quot; in providing a platform for the taking of sport caught fish.  It would be much more fair to have the licenses return to the state. The down side of that is the number of licenses is the whim of the Board of Fisheries(dominated by commercial fishing interests).  With downward trends of halibut stock, it will be Southcentral charters turn to support the 1 halibut limit to benifit the commercial fleet.  Just seems a logical progression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gart, As I said, I hadn&#8217;t really researched the impact of transferable licenses but I tend to agree with you from all I know so far.  The &#8220;exclusive club&#8221; license leans toward those who are &#8220;commercial&#8221; in providing a platform for the taking of sport caught fish.  It would be much more fair to have the licenses return to the state. The down side of that is the number of licenses is the whim of the Board of Fisheries(dominated by commercial fishing interests).  With downward trends of halibut stock, it will be Southcentral charters turn to support the 1 halibut limit to benifit the commercial fleet.  Just seems a logical progression.</p>
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		<title>By: Gart Curtis</title>
		<link>http://homertribune.com/2010/01/homer%e2%80%99s-halibut-charters-face-new-regulations/comment-page-1/#comment-1294</link>
		<dc:creator>Gart Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a huge mistake to allow the permits to be transferrable.  Any charter skipper on the verge of retirement is receiving a bonus from the government, and any young person in AK who had hopes of starting his/her own operation is seeing those hopes placed beyond financial reach.  Like the scenario played out with commercial IFQ&#039;s, over time this is going to move business away from individuals and locals and concentrate it with large outfits who can offer the highest price when the permits come up for sale.  So the future local skippers, unless lucky enough to inherit a permit, will end up working for someone else instead of for themselves.  

If it&#039;s necessary to reduce the catch limits, then start setting numbers and goals for areas, but let supply and demand determine the size of the fleet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a huge mistake to allow the permits to be transferrable.  Any charter skipper on the verge of retirement is receiving a bonus from the government, and any young person in AK who had hopes of starting his/her own operation is seeing those hopes placed beyond financial reach.  Like the scenario played out with commercial IFQ&#8217;s, over time this is going to move business away from individuals and locals and concentrate it with large outfits who can offer the highest price when the permits come up for sale.  So the future local skippers, unless lucky enough to inherit a permit, will end up working for someone else instead of for themselves.  </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s necessary to reduce the catch limits, then start setting numbers and goals for areas, but let supply and demand determine the size of the fleet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Longley</title>
		<link>http://homertribune.com/2010/01/homer%e2%80%99s-halibut-charters-face-new-regulations/comment-page-1/#comment-1285</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Longley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What nobody seems to address here is the fact that this new rule will do absolutely nothing to limit the number of halibut being caught by the charter fleet out of Homer. There will still be open seats on charter boats when the new regulations go into effect and the only effect will be to reduce the number of charter operations people will have to choose from. How interesting it is to me that the charter operators that helped draft this rule very conveniently fit within the qualification criteria. Why should someone like me that is trying to start his own serious charter operation be denied that chance just because I didn&#039;t happen to be fishing in the arbitrarily designated years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What nobody seems to address here is the fact that this new rule will do absolutely nothing to limit the number of halibut being caught by the charter fleet out of Homer. There will still be open seats on charter boats when the new regulations go into effect and the only effect will be to reduce the number of charter operations people will have to choose from. How interesting it is to me that the charter operators that helped draft this rule very conveniently fit within the qualification criteria. Why should someone like me that is trying to start his own serious charter operation be denied that chance just because I didn&#8217;t happen to be fishing in the arbitrarily designated years?</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda Hays</title>
		<link>http://homertribune.com/2010/01/homer%e2%80%99s-halibut-charters-face-new-regulations/comment-page-1/#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda Hays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unfortunate that the commercial and sports fishing groups (instead of fighting each other,)  did not join forces against the draggers.  We can only hope now that NOAA will do something other than having useless Observers on board the trawl fleet.  Something must be done about their by-catch, agreed by all it seems.   I was not for the moratorium, nor IFQs for Sports, now that it&#039;s a done deal however,  maybe the pressure will let up on the Sports fleet and move on to the seriousness of trawler destruction.  If they keep the pressure on the Sports guys and we go to a one fish limit, we are all out of jobs in Homer, as no tourist s will come here for one fish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate that the commercial and sports fishing groups (instead of fighting each other,)  did not join forces against the draggers.  We can only hope now that NOAA will do something other than having useless Observers on board the trawl fleet.  Something must be done about their by-catch, agreed by all it seems.   I was not for the moratorium, nor IFQs for Sports, now that it&#8217;s a done deal however,  maybe the pressure will let up on the Sports fleet and move on to the seriousness of trawler destruction.  If they keep the pressure on the Sports guys and we go to a one fish limit, we are all out of jobs in Homer, as no tourist s will come here for one fish!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Hess</title>
		<link>http://homertribune.com/2010/01/homer%e2%80%99s-halibut-charters-face-new-regulations/comment-page-1/#comment-1232</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Hess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mistake the total sport catch of halibut is 10.7. million not just the charter fleets catch. So, again think about the fact that the the Alaska ground fish fisheries discard on average over 13 million pounds of halibut every year. Two million pounds more than the entire sports catch of the state.  The outrage should be with the wanton waste of the factory trawlers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mistake the total sport catch of halibut is 10.7. million not just the charter fleets catch. So, again think about the fact that the the Alaska ground fish fisheries discard on average over 13 million pounds of halibut every year. Two million pounds more than the entire sports catch of the state.  The outrage should be with the wanton waste of the factory trawlers.</p>
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		<title>By: Willy Nye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willy Nye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is another chapter in the ongoing saga of greed.  Charter boats are not commercial fishers- they provide a platform for sport fishers to catch fish. 
As far back as 1993 I recall telling Bob Ward and his cohorts to concentrate on the wasted millions of pounds of the drag fleet.  That still has not been done.  I see no legitimacy at all in these new regulations, or any need to abide by them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another chapter in the ongoing saga of greed.  Charter boats are not commercial fishers- they provide a platform for sport fishers to catch fish.<br />
As far back as 1993 I recall telling Bob Ward and his cohorts to concentrate on the wasted millions of pounds of the drag fleet.  That still has not been done.  I see no legitimacy at all in these new regulations, or any need to abide by them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Hess</title>
		<link>http://homertribune.com/2010/01/homer%e2%80%99s-halibut-charters-face-new-regulations/comment-page-1/#comment-1226</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Hess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The total allocation for the entire charter fleet is 10.7 million pounds. What a joke it is limiting the Halibut charter fleet. The yearly bycatch of halibut by the Alaska ground fish fisheries exceeds this amount  by millions of pounds on a yearly basis. That&#039;s where the outrage should be but these are the biggest money fisheries in the world so guess who wins and who looses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The total allocation for the entire charter fleet is 10.7 million pounds. What a joke it is limiting the Halibut charter fleet. The yearly bycatch of halibut by the Alaska ground fish fisheries exceeds this amount  by millions of pounds on a yearly basis. That&#8217;s where the outrage should be but these are the biggest money fisheries in the world so guess who wins and who looses.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Cannon</title>
		<link>http://homertribune.com/2010/01/homer%e2%80%99s-halibut-charters-face-new-regulations/comment-page-1/#comment-1214</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10.7 million pounds is 20% of the total catch and as you mentioned does not figure in the bycatch of the entire commercial fishing fleet.  Its obvious that the commercial fleet makes the largest impact on any species.  The real issue is setting one economic group against the other.  The charter operators are making a living the same as the commercial fishers.  One is no more valid than the other.  Commercial hunting was stopped because of too great an impact on the species being hunted.  The impact of 2 fish per day (20%) is not that significant and has the benefit of going directly to the consumer, reducing added impacts to the environment.  Reductions to the 80% of halibut taken should be the priority, until stocks reach sustainable levels. As far as new licenses go, economics will take care of that; creating another &quot;license market&quot; could be good or bad - haven&#039;t researched that yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10.7 million pounds is 20% of the total catch and as you mentioned does not figure in the bycatch of the entire commercial fishing fleet.  Its obvious that the commercial fleet makes the largest impact on any species.  The real issue is setting one economic group against the other.  The charter operators are making a living the same as the commercial fishers.  One is no more valid than the other.  Commercial hunting was stopped because of too great an impact on the species being hunted.  The impact of 2 fish per day (20%) is not that significant and has the benefit of going directly to the consumer, reducing added impacts to the environment.  Reductions to the 80% of halibut taken should be the priority, until stocks reach sustainable levels. As far as new licenses go, economics will take care of that; creating another &#8220;license market&#8221; could be good or bad &#8211; haven&#8217;t researched that yet.</p>
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